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More usable consumables

Post by Vibius » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:11 pm

Right now quaffing potions/reciting strolls require you holding the potion/scroll, using it and potentially dropping the vessel which in total is far more than a single standard action in combat, making it much more time-costly than in D&D.

What I propose is being able to quaff/recite items from your inventory.

And perhaps reducing the base value of potions and the number of components required to brew/scribe so consumables would see more use.
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Re: More usable consumables

Post by Gwain » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:51 pm

I'd be fine with that for scrolls, but potions require a check for combat, meaning you can fail to quaff them in battle and lose the potion when you wield it. Unless of course this can be recoded to work for inventory.
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Re: More usable consumables

Post by Casamir » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:36 am

I think we could add more pills and charms to work from the inventory, so long as they are not subverting the place of scrolls and potions. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing combative alchemists with more grenadiers, poisons, gases, acids, incendiaries, and other such one-offs. Is there some specific spells you think that would be useful to come into the game in this readily consumable form?
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Re: More usable consumables

Post by Grenwyn » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:03 am

Casamir wrote:I think we could add more pills and charms to work from the inventory, so long as they are not subverting the place of scrolls and potions. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing combative alchemists with more grenadiers, poisons, gases, acids, incendiaries, and other such one-offs. Is there some specific spells you think that would be useful to come into the game in this readily consumable form?
I know some thieves that would love to see some sort of bomb-making (or trap-making) trade like that... :wink:
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Re: More usable consumables

Post by Rhangalas » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:29 am

I would be fine with potions and scrolls not requiring you to wield them as long as attacks of opportunity, the delay to recite/quaff, and failure due to combat still applied. It would basically simulate the time/standard moves it would take to hold and use the item without you actually having to frantically bash the keyboard in an attempt to pull off a recall potion before you die.

I agree that scribe/brew requires too many components for them to be a viable trade, because not many want to cover the triple cost of components plus additional funds so the PC can profit. Consumables overall do cost more than they should when you account for them being one-use or for wands having a very low amount of charges, but they shouldn't be dirt cheap either. I'm just saying the merchant is on skooma if he thinks I'm giving him 89pp for a potion.

I'm not sure about grenades, because all classes would essentially gain the ability to cast spells. The few grenade style items that already exist do not cause damage, they just impede the target in some way like blindness or entangle... a silence grenade would be the bee's knees though.

I guess the best place to start for grenade ideas would be to check out FK's existing AoE spells. In any case, they should have a significant cost attached to them and offer a reflex save to avoid them.
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