[Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

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[Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by dolifer » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:35 am

I have only an aasimar with the wings feat, so I am but guessing that the below is also true for tieflings's bat wings.

It wasn't obvious to me until I took the feat that the wings don't allow speed soar. I'd still have taken the feat regardless, but perhaps we could add a note to these helpfiles? FE:
*These wings do not allow a PC to move at speed soar, only speed fly.
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by Yemin » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:45 am

Also need be said that they don't allow you to move without the stamina drain of spell flight.

After the fact it should be obvious but I originally thought you could use them in stead of spell or mount.

Don't know how often people have that thought but yeah.
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by Lirith » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:46 pm

Yemin wrote:Also need be said that they don't allow you to move without the stamina drain of spell flight.

After the fact it should be obvious but I originally thought you could use them in stead of spell or mount.

Don't know how often people have that thought but yeah.
I don't understand what you mean. Using wings should cause a stamina drain, so it seems to me that it works as it should. (I can't check that I'm understanding what you mean properly as none of mine have wings).
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by dolifer » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:17 pm

Spells like fly and air walk lower the stamina needed to move from room to room, in addition to increasing your speed. I think Yemin was noting that the aasimar/tiefling wings don't grant this decrease to stamina drain as a spell might?

I haven't noticed this myself yet, but I'm still super low level on that char so pretty much everything drains his stamina quickly, anyway.
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by Yemin » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:26 pm

Dolifer phrased what I meant better.

It was a bad assumption for me to make at the time but I still made it and was wondering if others generally fall into that trap or if it was just me.
I trained up double-edged bananas because the uber-plantain of doom I scored from the beehive quest was the best weapon in the game. Now it's being treated like a bug and they have gimped its damage! That's not fair! My character is ruined!
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by dolifer » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:46 pm

Yemin wrote: Dolifer phrased what I meant better.

It was a bad assumption for me to make at the time but I still made it and was wondering if others generally fall into that trap or if it was just me.
I actually had thought much the same, though like I said, I probably wouldn't have noticed it myself for a while. Good to know!
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by Hrosskell » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:08 pm

While he's correct that flying with wings does take more stamina than flying with spell, you still get a considerable terrain advantage in general as far as I could ever tell. It's less stamina to fly with wings over mountains than to walk over them, for example.
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Re: [Helpfiles] Feathered and Bat Wings

Post by Yemin » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:29 pm

Confirmed it is less stamina to fly over mountains.

Just wondering If a note to help avoid my original misassumption ontop of Dolifer's original would be worth it.
I trained up double-edged bananas because the uber-plantain of doom I scored from the beehive quest was the best weapon in the game. Now it's being treated like a bug and they have gimped its damage! That's not fair! My character is ruined!
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