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Re: HOWTO's

Post by Kregor » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:27 pm

Mele wrote:Faith managers shouldn't be doing different things in game than is cannon to their gods.. they can't just make up things and add them as they go for their gods... unless that's not what you mean.. Otherwise info is info is info about the gods, and I'm pretty sure it's all gravy to have multiple sources in multiple places as -we already do-.
IC actions in-game sometimes lead to IC differences in the FK world as compared to canon. Faith managers can reach agreements one with another to strengthen or weaken their relationships between their faiths, they can also change the nature of where a faith has a foothold. So the relationships section may not always be consistent.

As far as the above alignment list goes, I can definitively say the faith of Mask and the faith of Torm go by the "one step removed" rule for cleric alignments. That is the alignment of a cleric has to be within one place removed from the deity on the alignment scale. This means that Mask, for example, has the spectrum of evil for their clergy (and even a true neutral, which would be a tricky RP without becoming "under the radar evil", but could be done), while Tormish priests have to be LN, NG, or LG only. Chaotic Good is GOOD, but the nature of a chaotic person is generally too far away from Torm's ethos to be a good example to the laity.

These alignments and relationships, as they are consistent with the FK realm, are both reflected in new, updated helps online. This was a project that was started a little while back, and Tasha is collecting where she can from faith managers, or very active people in the faiths to build a nice in-game help that will touch the basics.

As such, I believe that references to the faiths that are coded should be kept in-game where possible, and link to our own work, rather than someone else's. This is not to besmirch the effort on the how-to section, or criticize it as a whole. But I concur with Tasha, that just enough background to play a hopeful should be accessible from in-game sources. Let people learn the nuances ICly, that's what playing a hopeful is about.
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Re: HOWTO's

Post by Gwain » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:03 pm

Best example I can give is that Kelemvorites in the game do things differently than canon Kelemvorites. They are allowed to raise the dead because the mud system is different then the FR system. These changes are very minor though and can be learned icly from faith managers or deities themselves.

I am fine with the fr wiki postings for now, and I know we can use timestamped pages in the future just in case there are significant changes to the articles. Also, we might have our own systems in place eventually. I think it is fine for now.
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Re: HOWTO's

Post by Mele » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:55 pm

The alignment list quoted was from the helpfile thread. Specifically asked by Dalvyn to be included in the helpfiles as they were entered.

IC actions that happen IC are IC. OOC sources are to build up a character background before going to learn IC. They're not guide of how to play in game. They're not a blueprint to how things are going to be. I've always seen this as an understanding. If players come to FK, it's likely they're fans of FR, thus would have sourcebooks and knowledge and sites already. If they read our forums, they will find a thread for OOC resources for gods and races alike in different forum sections already.




I'll just change over the list to no links as soon as I have the time to remove the bbcoding if it's this big of a deal.

I'm sorry I apparently stepped on toes when all I was doing was trying to make sure there were options readily available that people would seek out on their own anyhow, and didn't even think it was offending to other resources, if I had I'd not have spent the hours making the list so.
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Re: HOWTO's

Post by Gwain » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:09 pm

I don't think you have stepped on toes and I think that the current settings you set in place don't have to be changed. A bit of perspective from me, I found this game trying to find online information on Helm, at that point in time the largest references to fr were the deity section on Fk. This has changed with the advent of internet sources like wikipedia. I see nothing wrong with having canonical links to current and constantly assessed wikis. I think until we have our own adequate systems in place that they will do just fine. I implore you to keep your work the way it is currently displayed and not change or remove it. As long as the wiki is not bothered and the admins don't see the problem I think it will be fine to use until we have something personal up and running.

Once again, very good work and thank you for your time and effort.
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