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I've been looking all over ZK, but I'm not seeing any con trainers, besides the low level in the training area. Would it be possible to add one or two, at least in the fighter's guild? I know there's con trainers other places, but the ones I know of aren't easy to get to, for various reasons.

I can not say for sure why there isn't one, but if I had to venture it would be tied to the fact that it is an evil city and made to be a more difficult start than others. Not all amenities are meant to be had right away, especially with starts in difficult cities like Skullport or Mithril Hall. Thankfully with a city like ZK, you are able to remove yourself from the city quite easily and find trainers elsewhere, opposed to the other two cities previously mentioned.

More likely than not, it was just oversight.. Best bet might be bug report unless Harry is reading.

There is a CON trainer pretty readily accessible in Zhentil Keep. While Dovan's point is well taken, do you all have a recommendation? Do you all believe that there is a real need for another CON trainer in ZK?

Harroghty wrote:There is a CON trainer pretty readily accessible in Zhentil Keep. While Dovan's point is well taken, do you all have a recommendation? Do you all believe that there is a real need for another CON trainer in ZK?

Evil does not mean "difficult to access."

ZK is a prominent starting city. It should have all the major stats and most basic skills/spells.

I am not sure why "difficult to access" is even a topic in something such as a stat - we're all well aware that stat trainers exist everywhere. If there is not one above 15 in Zhentil Keep, exactly six rooms away is Shadowdale.

As I said in the second thread about trainers in Zhentil Keep - Do not forget that Zhentil Keep does come with a small kismet charge, which does not mean it will be ridiculously harder, but things may not be right at your fingertips. - this does not mean "difficult" to access.

Let us stay on track here, and not turn a thread involving evils into a pity party for them - this tends to happen far too often, and that makes for far less motivation to add the things that may sincerely be missing.

Mele wrote:I am not sure why "difficult to access" is even a topic in something such as a stat - we're all well aware that stat trainers exist everywhere. If there is not one above 15 in Zhentil Keep, exactly six rooms away is Shadowdale.

Yeah, I think this meme is an annoying artifact of a different time in FK's life. I'm glad it's no longer the case and would like to thank our current staff (as well as some of the previous) for helping make this concept a footnote in FK history.

As for it being in Shadowdale, ICly Shadowdale is a very GOOD place. Some of the most powerful goodies are there. It would be fair to justify not wanting to go there as an evil. I don't see a reason why it can't be in the primary starting city for evils. After all, FK is primary foe of WD.

Again. There is an easily accessible CON trainer in Zhentil Keep who is the equal of any of the easily accessible ones in Waterdeep.