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I don't know if anyone ever read the old version of the Wizard' Handbook for ADnD, but there's a spell in there called Prestidigitation. It's considered a cantrip, a 0-level spell, and I was wondering if it would be all right to 'add' it to the bardic spell list.
Actually, the spell doesn't really do anything. It can clean objects, dry them, make things wet or dirty, stack a bunch of coins or arrange tiny things in rows, and so on. It'd be a purely RP based spell, just one for those times when someone falls in the fountain, complains that they're dirty or brags about 'loook how white my clothes are'! I think it would be a really fun way to expand the way a bard can use magic to RP, because we're supposed to have all kinds of odd tricks just like that.
Any thoughts?
-Sparlow

I think it sounds like lots of fun and good RP.

Thats basically the spell I ussually say im doing whenever I do a few RP illusions. Thats how I justify it at least.


Prestidigation.

Maybe it could exist and be cast like "cast prestidigitation The small piles of coins arranges itself in neat stacks." And you would see the message. You'd see the person chanting/singing, so you'd know who was responsible, so it might not be so abused. I do realize there is silent spell (if someone other than a bard is doing it), and I haven't yet thought of a way around that.... Maybe someone else will.

OK, I know that Prestidigitation is my all time favorite spell in D&D, but I don't think it should be in FK. Why? Because it does everything and nothing at the same time (Wow, I finally used that phrase). It can't do anything that makes a difference to the game, but it can do almost any little thing you can think of. What does FK have like that? Smoting!
It might not be as cool, but just smote the chanting and the effect. It's the same thing in the end, assuming your character actually has magic. In theory, the half-orc barbarian can do it too, but he's gonna get caught sooner or later.

I'm fairly sure that wizards aren't supposed to smote spells they don't have. That way we can't point fingers at people and smote creates twenty yapping attack poodles around character X and expect 'em to collapse.

If I remember correctly, poodles were acceptable. But only if they were shaved in that one particular way where they have poofs on certain parts of their bodies.

Prestidigitation is a spell that all wizards have in the DnD world. However, it wouldn't make much sense to put it on your spell list because then the spell would fall under the limitations of memorization, mana cost, etc., and prestidigitation is basically a cost-free spell in DnD because a wizard spends enough time studying it to be able to use it at will.


Jayson

Ellian wrote:Prestidigitation is a spell that all wizards have in the DnD world. However, it wouldn't make much sense to put it on your spell list because then the spell would fall under the limitations of memorization, mana cost, etc., and prestidigitation is basically a cost-free spell in DnD because a wizard spends enough time studying it to be able to use it at will.

Actually, it does have slight costs in D&D, which is why people don't like me using it so much. After all, when you use Prestidigitation, you could have used resistance, acid splash, detect magic, etc.
Bu if it was made into a spell in FK, how could it possibly work? Once cast, the spell has a duration of 1 hour (In D&D, anyway) where you can do as many stupid, pointless tricks as you want.
So, how would that work in FK? That's right. You'd basically be smoting anyway. Even if it was a spell, it would be under the same limitations as smoting is, since you'd have to type out the effects. This means you could cast it and create your poodle swarm, though for the record, that's certainly beyond the spell's abilities.

I believe some time ago when I had the idea of adding cantrips to the game (as one spell with various effects as opposed to a spelllevel, so that it works better for FK) Mystra confirmed that you can not smote what you can not do. Does it apply here, so the nifty things you wuold be able to do with prestidigition can not be smoted.