Yaun-ti humanoid?

Dapher · Post by **Dapher** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:30 pm

Reading the back of a FR book, it talks about the humanoid Yaun-ti. I would like to get an opinion about this. I know there was an incdent several years ago about humanoid creatures, and a certain ranger saying that Yaun-ti are humanoid. Before I go making a fool out of one of my characters, I woud like to get this settled for sure.

Dalanna · Post by **Dalanna** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:16 pm

There's a bit in the 3.5 monster manual (page 190) regarding this. Though I know FK doesnt follow to the letter.

Purebloods are humanoid, with slight differences, forked tongue, pointed teeth or similar serpent-like traits. They can pass as human, if people dont look close.

Halfbloods are about 50-75% humanoid, with severe differences. Tails, snake head, or similar obvious serpent features. They are the most commonly used and depicted Yuan'ti.

Abominations are almost entiely snake with only one or two humanoid traits

So, some yuan-ti appear humanoid, but not all do.

Dapher · Post by **Dapher** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:21 pm

Thank you for your input. Perhaps I should specify a little bit. some argue that Yaun-ti are humanoid, rangers are not supposed to skin humanoid creatures, or wear hides of humanoid creatures. Would it be acceptable for a ranger to wear yaun-ti hide? If someone thinks this should be resolved ICly, then let me know, and I will do so. But, I kinda wanna get everyones point of view

Lathander · Post by **Lathander** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:59 pm

There are two answers to your question.

1. As for using the slice skill to skin then tan the hide of one of the yuan-ti mobs, look at the mob (or the corpse) and read the description. If it describes the creature as a snake then it would be alright, if it describes the creature as a snakelike humanoid it would not be.

2. As for the armor that is sold (as opposed to made by the ranger) it can be assumed that this armor comes from the subspecies cited above that is completely snake.

Dapher · Post by **Dapher** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:36 am

Ok, thank you. I have been curious about that ever since I started my ranger, and just now got the opportunity to ask the question. I thank you again.

Glim · Post by **Glim** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:35 am

Lathander wrote:2. As for the armor that is sold (as opposed to made by the ranger) it can be assumed that this armor comes from the subspecies cited above that is completely snake.

So is this an official ruling, Lath? Because I have heard of rangers getting in trouble before for wearing yuan-ti hide armor.

Kregor · Post by **Kregor** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:12 am

That would quite depend upon the Ranger Councilor making the call. This was brought up for discussion once a while back and the discussion died, so, far as I'm concerned, it's still up in the air. *prods again*

Kregor has been waging a campaign for a considerable time against the wearing of yuan-ti hide by the rangers. And yes, he will criticize any ranger he sees wearing it, and scold them about the ecology of the Yuan-ti.

From a D&D rules perspective, you can go by the Monster Manual's definition of Yuan-ti

Abomination: Large Monstrous Humanoid
Halfblood: Medium Monstrous Humanoid
Pureblood: Medium Monstrous Humanoid

Regardless of how many or few reptilian characteristics... the "percent" human they are, they are still classified as humanoid. Would you justify wearing the skin of a centaur because that particular centaur looked more horse-like than others of its species? If they have scales over their entire body and tails, it's no different than a Tabaxi being covered with fur and having tails.

Point is, they are sentient, with their own human-like culture. ALSO are one of the possible future player character races, so, I fail to see them as any different than wearing the bugbear hide armour from the Undermountain, or skinning the goblins in the Peaks... if you could PLAY it as a character, you shouldn't be able to WEAR it as a goodly ranger.

I fail to see laxing the very rules that were put down for the ranger guild, simply to try and justify having a suit of what is... purportedly by some... the only cool leather armor in the game.

Glim · Post by **Glim** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:17 am

Kregor wrote:...Abomination...Halfblood...Pureblood...human...centaur...horse...bugbear...goblins...

Hmm, I dont see any problems with these? Why is that?

Kregor · Post by **Kregor** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:20 am

Because you're a humanoid skinning, flesh-eatin' Malarite??