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combatmode cast defensively

Post by Kavrin » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:56 pm

There's an option under combatmode called cast defensively, which isn't mentioned in help combatmode or any other helpfile I can find. The command itself says it avoids attacks of opportunity when casting, and it does.

Is there any disadvantage to this? Why would anyone choose combatmode -cast defensively?
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Nylo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:21 pm

I haven't been able to find any disadvantage. You have to make a concentration check every time you cast, instead of just when you get hit in combat, but it's apparently not a very high DC.
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Athon » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:45 pm

The rulebook:

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Casting on the Defensive

Casting a spell while on the defensive does not provoke an attack of opportunity. It does, however, require a Concentration check (DC 15 + spell level) to pull off. Failure means that you lose the spell. 

No attack of opportunity is a big deal. A GM in concentration should theoretically never fail (GM = 25; highest check can be is 15 + 9 = 24). A 24 is not especially hard to achieve, seeing as you can train concentration up fairly high through trainers and you should get an additional bonus from your CON.

It'd still be wise to turn it off when you're not against opponents with attacks of opportunity.
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Kethyean » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:26 am

Does concentration work similar to this when trying to quaff a potion? So far every time I tried to use one in battle it was always dropping the potion.
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Nylo » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:31 am

Potions go off your dexterity - no concentration check.
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Kavrin » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:22 pm

With 13 con and no skill at all in concentration, I haven't failed a spell once with this mode turned on.
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Raona » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:26 am

I think it may just not provide a failure echo - is your spell actually being cast every time?
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Kavrin » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:59 am

As far as I can tell my spells cast every time.
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Re: combatmode cast defensively

Post by Nylo » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:13 am

Concentration is usually one of the first things I train, up to 12 or 13, but I can't remember ever losing a spell in defensive. So it might not be rolling like it should.
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