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Scrolls

Post by Yemin » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:06 pm

I seem to be suffering a delay after reciting a scroll that makes it unfeasible to use scrolls in combat.

Was this the delay's intended purpose... and if so, why?
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Aunala » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:20 pm

I haven't been able to recite a scroll via 'use magic device' ever. Wands/zap and staves/brandish work, but not reciting scrolls. Anyone else?
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Re: Scrolls

Post by dolifer » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:50 am

Aunala wrote: I haven't been able to recite a scroll via 'use magic device' ever. Wands/zap and staves/brandish work, but not reciting scrolls. Anyone else?
Last I heard and as far as I know, the Use Magic Device skill has a few issues, this being one. Thieves can't read or recite scrolls with it.
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Sithiel » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:06 am

As far as I know you can't recite scrolls that contain spells that your class could not use. So basicly this means thieves can't use scrolls
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Sithiel » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:06 am

As far as I know you can't recite scrolls that contain spells that your class could not use. So basicly this means thieves can't use scrolls
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Ungtar » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:02 pm

I've got a scroll in my pocket which is kind of weird. Maybe this thread can answer if it's a bug or not.

Weapon of energy but my cleric cannot write it. Says there are no spells to learn.

Is it because the scroll was scribed by a wizard and not another cleric?
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Yemin » Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:45 pm

Hmm, thats weird. I have a scroll thats kind of the opposite maybe.
It can be written, but not recited.
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Levine » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:27 am

A little late on this -

I had a scroll that I wanted to write from, but it had harm and fire storm on it, in that order.

I 'recite[d] first' on harm, so i could 'write scroll' and learn fire storm, but received the response that I could not write spells from it.

Is there a way to direct writing from a scribe to the first, second, or third spell on a scroll?

Also I'm curious as to why I couldn't write from the scroll.
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Yemin » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:24 pm

To my knowledge no. You can't learn firestorm because firestorm was scribed as the second spell. and retains that slot.

doesn't matter if you recite all other spells from it the firestorm will always be put into the second slot on that particular scroll and only the first slot can ever be learnt from as in help scroll.

If you scribe onto that scroll, you'll actually see that the new spells come before and after the firestorm in that order. I found this out myself the other day.
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Yemin » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:55 am

Upon more testing I'm pretty sure reciting scrolls delay command input for about 2 rounds worth of time.

This makes them largely less attractive than wands in combat. Was this the intended outcome?
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Dranso » Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:42 am

Levine wrote:Is there a way to direct writing from a scribe to the first, second, or third spell on a scroll?
I have seen this done and have done it myself. I cannot remember the command though. It might be "write 2" or "write two"
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Zorinar » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:48 pm

My thief can recite scrolls.
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Re: Scrolls

Post by dolifer » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:40 pm

Zorinar wrote: My thief can recite scrolls.
Does your thief have, like, a ridiculously high Use Magic Device skill or something?

I don't mean to ask for IC info... And actually it's probably better this question goes unanswered. But I'm honestly curious as every other thief I've seen (my own included) fails every attempt to recite, even under the effects of read magic. I was told the skill isn't functioning properly--it'd be a huge boon if it turns out it is!
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Re: Scrolls

Post by Woror » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:24 pm

At a certain skill level in 'use magic device' I have managed to use a wand several times but I would also fail several times while when I had it lower it always would fail, so skill is a factor here.

I figure that with scrolls will be roughly the same.
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