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No skill increases

Post by Yemin » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:27 am

Wanted to make a list of skills that don't ever seem to increase with use and ask generally, why they don't, if they're broken or were designed not to. Tools such as shovels that don't visibly increase proficiency in dig still seem to make the skill itself largely pointless.

Cook, search, dig,

Pretty sure cook actually isn't one of these, but wanted to make sure.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Lirith » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:50 am

Cook most certainly does increase. I expect the reason that skill increases with the other two are infrequent is because they are skills that are used far less often. It's not as if you dig out a tunnel several times a day and search is only used in certain places as well.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Vaemar » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:03 pm

On a related note, did somebody get any increase in riposte after the fix?
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Areia » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:00 pm

Unless there was a recent fix I didn't hear about, riposte was broken and remains so. A few hundred hours played on my thief with exclusively piercing weapons never managed to see a riposte echo, let alone any increase from inept 1 to inept 2.

I actually managed to find out the way to train dig not long ago, and it's definitely super trainable. I obviously won't give ways how here but it can go up pretty quickly.

As for search, I'm still almost positive that one's somehow in need of tweeking. I posted about it a while back, but in short, after tons of hours of pointedly searching (successfully) every last hidden thing my thief could find, including crystals, hidden doors, passages, traps, etc. still no skill increase. And she had a fairly high INT, so I'd have expected at least one.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Vaemar » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:03 pm

Areia wrote:Unless there was a recent fix I didn't hear about,
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After the fix I got riposte echoes on my thief, despite the message has a slight error. However, since I kept it willingly at inept to see if it went up alone, I did not get any increase yet. Still, it is hard to say whether the lack of increase is a bug, since I did not go grind skills on my thief that much after the fix.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Areia » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:10 pm

Woah. Huh, that makes me super excited! Not sure how I missed that. I'll do some work and keep you posted, Vaemar.

Climb is another that seems a little odd. I've tried training that one up, too, with no success.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Harroghty » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:13 pm

Climb advances. Dig advances.

What Lirith said. :)
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Yemin » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:55 am

So so far its just search and possibly riposte?

There seems to be some vaguarity in the term successful use of the skill as far as skill training go. Afterall, i think you still receive skill increases if you miss with fifth attack or don't hit anything with a spell. If we take into account that there might not have been anything to find. Mers has certainly searched hundreds of times without any seeming increase, if ti does however need you to find something then this one could be as the lady said.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Harroghty » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:14 pm

Search increases also. I verified today that it does increase on the game port.

Riposte does not appear to increase, but I haven't actively tested it.
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Harroghty » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:41 pm

You parry an orc soldier's attack.
You riposte Harroghty's attack.
Had this today...
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Vaemar » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:55 pm

I had that echo as well, but no increases so far.

Also, another skill I tried to use quite a bit, but still saw no increases, is sing. Anybody managed to get an increase?
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Re: No skill increases

Post by Terageld » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:34 pm

Harroghty wrote:
You parry an orc soldier's attack.
You riposte Harroghty's attack.
Had this today...
Happened to me a bunch. Even managed to kill a goblin by riposting my own attack.

I guess I'm just that good at sword fighting.
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