I'd like to suggest a cleric/paladin spell for applying the 'holy' flag to weapons. It could be used to apply the holy flag to any item, but only weapons would be functionally different as a result.
At present, cold iron is useless. It doesn't affect demons differently because they require 'holy' and 'cold iron'. Similar is true of devils that need 'holy' and 'silver'. Alternatively, I believe we should just modify bless to be something we could target items with rather than people, to gain that same effect.
[Spell Suggestion] Bless Item
[Spell Suggestion] Bless Item
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Re: [Spell Suggestion] Bless Item
Ok, so I looked into this.
The holy flag may not actually do anything right now, but it does bypass when it's applied to a weapon of the right material.
Holy and the requisite material are required for each type (e.g. holy and silver won't damage a demon even though holy is required for a demon anyway, and only silver won't damage a devil, it needs holy, too).
It does not appear that a weapon can have more than one flag (e.g. holy and flaming).
There are some silver weapons out there in the world. There are some cold iron weapons out there. Why not just add the holy flag to those without a flag now in order to seed the world with some?
The holy flag may not actually do anything right now, but it does bypass when it's applied to a weapon of the right material.
Holy and the requisite material are required for each type (e.g. holy and silver won't damage a demon even though holy is required for a demon anyway, and only silver won't damage a devil, it needs holy, too).
It does not appear that a weapon can have more than one flag (e.g. holy and flaming).
There are some silver weapons out there in the world. There are some cold iron weapons out there. Why not just add the holy flag to those without a flag now in order to seed the world with some?
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Re: [Spell Suggestion] Bless Item
Seeding with effective weapons is a simpler solution than changing a spell. There are a few quests that give out special material weapons as well.
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Seeding would work. I was just thinking it might be a way to bring a FK shift of a canon ability for paladins into the game as holy weapon isn't likely to see the light of Lathander any time ever 
I still think Demon/Devil areas should be challenging and require a group, my thinking with this spell was to make paladins and clerics more of an asset to that group as they could bless party weapons in those instances.
That said, seeding some weapons that would overcome those damage resistances would also work. Make a few areas less daunting without making them easy or solo-able.
I still think Demon/Devil areas should be challenging and require a group, my thinking with this spell was to make paladins and clerics more of an asset to that group as they could bless party weapons in those instances.
That said, seeding some weapons that would overcome those damage resistances would also work. Make a few areas less daunting without making them easy or solo-able.
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Re: [Spell Suggestion] Bless Item
Fixed resistances for devils and demons to be OR, not AND, as defined by SRD. e.g. https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm
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Great! Thanks Boss
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Re: [Spell Suggestion] Bless Item
Thou rockest good sir
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I talked earlier with Tony and I tested this a bit.
I think that we can use the holy weapon flag (which counts as being holy for DR purposes) and add that to a weapon spell with holy weapon (103) for some additional damage. I'll consider this in the future for some holy avengers (although some are flaming in source materials, I've used frost and other variations in game so far).
I need to test this a little more for parity, but it seems reasonable.
I think that we can use the holy weapon flag (which counts as being holy for DR purposes) and add that to a weapon spell with holy weapon (103) for some additional damage. I'll consider this in the future for some holy avengers (although some are flaming in source materials, I've used frost and other variations in game so far).
I need to test this a little more for parity, but it seems reasonable.
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The fix to demons for cold iron to work without being holy doesn't appear to apply to Mariliths and other demons that have their own racefiles. Similar issue may exist for some devils regarding silver?
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