'Skip tutorial' option if the character is not the first

Trillarel · Post by **Trillarel** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:19 am

As the topic says. I want to try playing a wizard or a cleric but I don't want to go through the tutorial again.

Could a 'skip' option be added, that would place you in the Font of Knowledge waiting for your name and desc to be accepted?

Lathlain · Post by **Lathlain** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:49 pm

You're given an option to skip the tutorial already. It may not be present for the first character, as you say, but it's definitely there for subsequent ones.

Trillarel · Post by **Trillarel** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:58 pm

Haven't seen it, and I have 4 alts.

Dovan · Post by **Dovan** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:49 pm

Just started an alt the other day and it still presents the option. Can't remember the exact wording but it gives you a Yes / No option of going to the Newbie Temple.

Lirith · Post by **Lirith** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:29 pm

Confirmed. In character creation you choose sex, race then class. Then you pick your stats (either standard or customised). One the weapon appears in your inventory, you are give the option:

Would you like to visit the newbie training area?
(A) Yes (B) No
.
By choosing "No", you will forfeit equipment and other rewards.

If you choose No, you are automatically placed directly into the Font.

Trillarel · Post by **Trillarel** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:12 pm

Okay, will try it later.

Why does skipping training mean not getting clothes and money? Weird. Why should a character run around naked?

Aldren · Post by **Aldren** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:43 pm

Because, as it states, if you decide to skip you, you miss out on rewards and other good benefits of going through the "training zone". Why should you be able to have gear for not doing anything? If you skip everything that gives you the rewards, you should have nothing.

Lathander · Post by **Lathander** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:42 pm

Aldren is correct. It is a pure cost vs. benefit decision.

Selveem · Post by **Selveem** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:58 pm

The thread is getting off-topic, but if I might be allowed to indulge a little as well, I'd like to present my stance on the matter:

I'm inclined to agree with Trillarel.

Just because you decide not to go through a tutorial that you've already seen three or more times before, you don't even get to start off with clothes? It seems a bit silly. Why would all characters start off naked and without money (can't remember if the tutorial's what gives you the gold coin or not)?

Additionally, all starting characters are supposed to start with a certain amount of wealth as a level one. This is evident even in the player's handbook:

The Gospel on Random Starting Gold wrote: Barbarian: 4d4x10
Bard: 4d4x10
Cleric: 5d4x10
Druid: 2d4x10
Fighter: 6d4x10
Monk: 5d4 (note this class does not get x10 multiplier!)
Paladin: 6d4x10
Ranger: 6d4x10
Rogue: 5d4x10
Sorcerer: 3d4x10
Wizard: 3d4x10

Additionally, in Faerun Campaign Setting, you get additional benefits of starting certain places like masterwork equipment.

Harroghty · Post by **Harroghty** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:06 pm

This is a moot debate. The newbie process will be overhauled completely very soon. The new starting area is complete and on the shelf, ready to go; I am only finishing the supporting quest area.

Trillarel · Post by **Trillarel** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:07 pm

I'm not saying a character should get a benefit for skipping the tutorial. However, s/he should get clothes and those gold coins from Mirt. 1 platinum IIRC is a quest reward, so s/he skips on it, but he should be getting the rest.

Note that I haven't actually skipped the tutorial with any of my characters, so I don't know how much is skipped in terms of equipment. I'd have to start another alt to check that.

Maybe it's a good thing I can't get around to writing a review of FK for a Polish RPG site...

EDIT: Yaay!!!

Selveem · Post by **Selveem** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:08 pm

Harroghty wrote:This is a moot debate. The newbie process will be overhauled completely very soon. The new starting area is complete and on the shelf, ready to go; I am only finishing the supporting quest area.

I'm willing to test for you!

Trillarel · Post by **Trillarel** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:08 pm

Selveem wrote:
Harroghty wrote:This is a moot debate. The newbie process will be overhauled completely very soon. The new starting area is complete and on the shelf, ready to go; I am only finishing the supporting quest area.
I'm willing to test for you!

Me too

Selveem · Post by **Selveem** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:15 pm

Trillarel wrote:
Selveem wrote:
Harroghty wrote:This is a moot debate. The newbie process will be overhauled completely very soon. The new starting area is complete and on the shelf, ready to go; I am only finishing the supporting quest area.
I'm willing to test for you!
Me too

I called it first! *bullies* ;D

Mele · Post by **Mele** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:45 pm

For the record right now - it's based on kismet whether you can skip or not. Sometimes when I drain my kismet out for a shiny alt I am not allowed to skip also. :)

But like Harro said, moot. It will be fancified soon.

Selveem · Post by **Selveem** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:19 am

Mele wrote:For the record right now - it's based on kismet whether you can skip or not. Sometimes when I drain my kismet out for a shiny alt I am not allowed to skip also.

Well if you'd stop deleting your not-as-shiny alts, you wouldn't need to waste more kismet!

Lathander · Post by **Lathander** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:00 pm

Mayyyyybe we should have a pee contest to see who gets to test the new system when it is ready.

Selveem · Post by **Selveem** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:23 pm

Lathander wrote:Mayyyyybe we should have a pee contest to see who gets to test the new system when it is ready.

*starts bottling mine and putting it in the saddlebags of griffons*

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