More helpfile errors

[Raona]

Strictly speaking, this is not an error. More of an omission. Could we get the help file for 'Weapon Finesse' updated to include the level it becomes available? It's not available at first level.

Code doesn't have a minimum level for this feat - just a 16 DEX requirement. Though it is a fighter bonus feat, does that mean it is limited to the fighter class? I don't think so?

Can you spell out more detail of what kind of PC you were hoping to train it on?

[Raona]

I just noticed that 'sickle' is included in the help file for polearms. I'm sure this is an error. Sickles are short blades.

Quite right! They used to be polearms, but we fixed that, and the helpfile didn't keep up. It is now fixed. Thanks for reporting it!

[Anguin]

Code doesn't have a minimum level for this feat - just a 16 DEX requirement. Though it is a fighter bonus feat, does that mean it is limited to the fighter class? I don't think so?

Can you spell out more detail of what kind of PC you were hoping to train it on?

When I attempted to train it, I received a message to the effect of "You need more combat experience to learn this feat". I was trying with a human rogue who started with a 16 Dexterity.

At level 4 I was able to get it (I checked each new level).

Edit: And thank you for looking into these things! I appreciate it!

[Raona]

Ah, I think I see it! The feat requires a minimum base attack bonus of 1. I'll add that into the helpfile. Thank you! (Ditto for weapon focus)

[Nearraba]

Hello! =) I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post, but I'm hoping so. Apologies in advance if it's not.

In typing Help, I recieved,

Error retrieving help: MySQL server has gone away.

I've also tried looking up exact helpfiles and came up with the same response. I've never seen this before, but I think our helpfiles might need some help! =) Thank you.

(Edited, because this was fixed with the last copy-over. Thank you!)

[Harroghty]

Hi. Just a reminder, if you ever see that message then please use the ASK channel. It is an easy thing for any immortal to fix.

[Raona]

To fill out the details on this...we believe it's actually a bug in MySQL itself, which they know about, but haven't fixed yet. I think a consequence of our actually having two databases open at once (the second one with pending edits). So it's in the bug fix queue, but beyond our grasp to resolve at the moment. Thanks for taking the time to report it, however!

[Gwain]

Chariot of the Sun

Conjuration [Fire]
Range: Personal
Syntax: c 'chariot of the sun' <target>

Invokes a flaming chariot upon which the caster is swept instantly
to his destination.

The spell has a few restrictions: you will only succeed in casting it
during daytime hours, between 7 A.M. and 5 P.M. and you will only succeed
in casting if both you and your victim are in an outdoor area -- you need
the power of the sun in order for this spell to work (thus it will also
not succeed in bad weather).

Its more a question of syntax but target would probably work better than victim. Most of the other transportation spell helpfiles use target.

[Raona]

A fine suggestion, thank you Gwain! Done!

Chariot of the Sun

Conjuration [Fire]
Range: Personal
Syntax: c 'chariot of the sun' <target>

Invokes a flaming chariot upon which the caster is swept instantly
to his destination.

The spell has a few restrictions: you will only succeed in casting it
during daytime hours, between 7 A.M. and 5 P.M. and you will only succeed
in casting if both you and your victim are in an outdoor area -- you need
the power of the sun in order for this spell to work (thus it will also
not succeed in bad weather).

Its more a question of syntax but target would probably work better than victim. Most of the other transportation spell helpfiles use target.

[Tarven]

I was told that the help file for druids was recently updated to reflect that druids do not receive domain spells. However, the help files show that spells are granted to deities, based on their domains, IE; Prowess (Malar), Renewal (Chauntea), Travel (Mielikki) and Nature (all 3, and only those 3, which pretty much invalidates that domain, as I'm told there are no 'clerics' of the 3 nature deities).

Another, possible, suggestion, might be to remove the 'domain' portions of the nature deity entries, if there aren't to be clerics of those deities. =)

Thanks!

[Mele]

It was not recently updated - druids have never received domain spells.

However, clerics do receive domain spells and both Chauntea and Mielikki in canon have clerical orders, though not in common practice on FK, the domains connected to those are listed in respective helpfiles.

We have never stated specifically whether or not someone could take up the roleplay of 'cleric' rather than 'druid' of these nature faiths, so as it stands now it would be specific per application by a player.

In short; this is not a helpfile error, but priests entering those faiths are defaulted to druid unless they submit an application and are approved for cleric - approval of this would be case by case if at all. Anyone hoping to apply for this would need to have some very serious and specific roleplay reasoning, as the code benefits are obviously seen as a heavy motivation while it should be for the roleplay line.

[Tarven]

It was not recently updated - druids have never received domain spells.

I never said they -did- receive domain spells, I said that I was -told- that the help file had been updated to state such, as there had been some confusion. Whether this did, or didn't, happen, I don't know. I'm just saying that I, upon reading the help files, fell upon some confusion as to the nature of things. Such as the following, from 'Help priests'

Note that Malar, Chauntea, and Mielikki do not have priests, but rather all of their religious followers are druids. Those wishing to follow Mielikki, Chauntea, and Malar as non human priests should check help druids for more details.

If the case is that one -can- apply for clerics of those faiths, perhaps then my suggestion might be to add such to the Help Priests helpfile, and possibly direction to such directly in the text on those 3 deities, so that people might know there's an option to do so, and thus that the domains aren't moot. =)

Thanks again!

[Mele]

Improved Initiative Feat
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This feat enables you to react more quickly in battle.

This feat has no pre-requisites.

There's lots of ways to react more quickly in battle - can this one be expanded on?

[Tarven]

Improved Initiative Feat
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This feat enables you to react more quickly in battle.

This feat has no pre-requisites.

There's lots of ways to react more quickly in battle - can this one be expanded on?

Yeah, I've sort of wondered on this one myself. The assumption I've been running with just makes it so that you'll attack first in combat rounds. Or at least more likely to. Which can make a bigger diff in 1v1 fights, esp with a lot of swinging going on.

[Gwain]

This is what I found online:

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Improved_Initiative

Its vague too, supposedly a bit of a bonus to initiative checks.

[Harroghty]

The feat functions just as described in the SRD: a +4 bonus to initiative checks.

[Raona]

Tarven - Thank you for pointing out the Domain issue. Those helpfiles have been updated to help mitigate confusion for new players.

Harroghty and I both added a bit to the Improved Initiative helpfile to try to clarify what it does. Again, thanks for pointing out the potential for improvement there.

[Tarven]

Tarven - Thank you for pointing out the Domain issue. Those helpfiles have been updated to help mitigate confusion for new players.

Harroghty and I both added a bit to the Improved Initiative helpfile to try to clarify what it does. Again, thanks for pointing out the potential for improvement there.

Glad I could help, and thanks for the updates. =)

For my next trick!

* While you can learn the attacks out of turn (i.e. train third attack before
you have become reasonably capable with second attack, for example), it is
inefficient to do so because you will only attempt a third attack upon a
successful second attack.

I recently found out you need at least journeyman in second attack to train in third attack. But only after I spent about 45 minutes looking for a trainer for third attack. Any chance the help file could be changed to specify journeyman being required?

Thanks!

[Tarven]

1 pound = 100 copper = 20 silver = 10 electrum = 5 gold = 10 platinum

So, I was noticing, when I deposited 693 copper, my weight went from ~62 to ~47, 15 pounds for ~700 copper, which would suggest the help file to be erroneous (if this is intentional) or some kind of miscode, if the help file's indicated weights are intentional? Figured I'd post here and check.

[Raona]

* While you can learn the attacks out of turn (i.e. train third attack before
you have become reasonably capable with second attack, for example), it is
inefficient to do so because you will only attempt a third attack upon a
successful second attack.

I recently found out you need at least journeyman in second attack to train in third attack. But only after I spent about 45 minutes looking for a trainer for third attack. Any chance the help file could be changed to specify journeyman being required?

Thanks!

Oy! That whole system looks to have been changed, and I've revised the helpfile extensively to reflect such. Sorry about that...I didn't get the memo, until you spoke up!