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Belt Item Layers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:03 am
by Harroghty
Please post here with comments about the programs added to some in-game sheaths. Do you like them? Could I improve them somehow?

Credit to Gwain for that original idea.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:26 am
by Aldren
I love that certain scabbards are able to be changed on the fly as to where on the belt they can be worn (close to the skin, as armor, or loosely). I think all scabbards, weapon loops, and weapons that can be worn on the belt should be able to be worn on multiple locations at the player's discretion.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:02 pm
by Nylo
I second that - it would certainly make it easier to get a matching belt set.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:13 am
by Gwain
I actually forgot body scabbards.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:13 pm
by Harroghty
This issue should be fixed now via hard code thanks to Mask. Please post here if you have any issues with it.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:23 am
by Vantaniael
I like the functionality, but I'd still like to be able to see the appearance description on the items, which I dont seem to be able to get.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:20 am
by Harroghty
Mask fixed this today. Thanks (to you for reporting, and to him for fixing).

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:55 pm
by Lylena
At one point I could wear a black silk bag, an embossed scabbard, the scabbard from the Waterdeep Fighters guild, and a spellpouch. If I go along the same process that I would to get everything right and proper (which took forever to nail the process down), when I try and wear the spellpouch, the last thing I would usually wear, it removes the silk bag.

Starting with a fresh belt, this is the process I'd go through:
You wear a black silk bag on your belt.
You pull your scabbard to the middle of your belt.
You wear an embossed scabbard on your belt.
You pull your scabbard down your belt.
You wear a leather-bound scabbard embroidered with nine silver stars on your belt.
You pull your scabbard down your belt.
You stop using a black silk bag.
You wear a sapphire spellpouch embroidered with diamond stars on your belt.

At the end you see the bag being removed by the spellpouch. Any suggestions on how to get it back to where I could, or was I using a bug to my advantage without knowing?

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:10 am
by Nylo
I'd guess it was a bug - unless something changed, belts only have three wear locations.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:27 am
by Harroghty
You're sure that they were all on the belt and that the bag was not held in a hand? If so, then yes, it was a bug.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:43 am
by Lylena
Before, I could hold all four items on the belt. Bag first, armor, embossed scabbard next, under, and the Nine Star scabbard after that, under. The spellpouch topped everything off.

Whoops, then, if that's the case. Had no idea it was only three wearslots since I could successfully manage all four. x_x

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:07 am
by Vantaniael
This begs to me the question, could there be a static location adjuster for items worn on the belt, perhaps with a kismet or gloru cost like with the items in the anniversary Berdusk area? Is there anyway this would be abusive or unfair simply to have an area where you could organize on belt items at preference. I think its a step in the right direction, I imagine maybe spell pouches or weapons could be an issue, but otherwise, being able to choose where you have a bag or sheath seems excellent.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:26 am
by Harroghty
To what end? To adjust the order in which they appear?

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:36 am
by Vantaniael
Well realistically you could where whichever, wherever. But in game practicality, its a matter of fitting any combination of belt containers and weapon holders without superficial restrictions of layering position on any specific combinations of items. It -is- superficial, but useful for item coordination.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:05 am
by Harroghty
I am still not sure exactly what you are asking for. Is it because some items are not transparent?

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:28 am
by Vantaniael
It's cosmetic reasons. Certain choices in bags and scabbards, and what ones will fit on your belt and what will not. Adjusting layers on them would allow you wear a preferred combination and often more gear appropriate assortment of belt containers and scabbards. It is a cosmetic idea, but handy none the same. Though, largely improved by scabbard adjustment, for which we say thanks.

Re: Belt Item Layers

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:23 am
by Lathlain
I'm sorry, I can't work out what you're asking for either - I think there must be a mix-up somewhere.

After recent code updates you're able to wear any three belt items regardless of layer in any order you choose - not just scabbards. If that's what you're after, then your wish may already have been answered!