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Complete Darkness and Backstab

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:26 am
by Gwain
I've found very recently that if you are in complete darkness and initiate a backstab in combat, you may do more than one during the combat. The help file mentions backstab as a combat initiation, so I wanted to report this as a possible issue, especially when combined with darkvision.

Re: Complete Darkness and Backstab

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:02 am
by Tarven
Gwain wrote:I've found very recently that if you are in complete darkness and initiate a backstab in combat, you may do more than one during the combat. The help file mentions backstab as a combat initiation, so I wanted to report this as a possible issue, especially when combined with darkvision.
If anything, I think it's the helpfile that would need an update. I also do 'sneak attacks' when I gouge someone, or if they're stunned (IE color spray), which is as per SRD (don't have dex bonus)

Re: Complete Darkness and Backstab

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:25 am
by Tarven
A goblin soldier screams as you gouge at his eyes.
a goblin soldier has a few small cuts.
You score a critical hit!
A goblin soldier makes a strange sound as you land a sneak attack with a dark metal katana!
A goblin soldier's heart is torn from his chest.
A goblin soldier is DEAD!


Pretty sure sneak attacks are meant to happen aside from just combat initiation.

Re: Complete Darkness and Backstab

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:55 pm
by Hrosskell
I don't know the current state of the sneak attack vs. backstab/circle debate, but that works as intended by DND standards. Any time you'd get the drop on your enemy, you get a sneak attack--them not being able to see you is one of these situations.

Re: Complete Darkness and Backstab

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:13 pm
by Raona
Thanks for the report, and the additional comments! I agree that the helpfile needs a tweak, and I've done my best to provide it, though I'm no expert on roguery. If what I've added doesn't sound right, please let me know!