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Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:52 pm
by Azgar
The supplicated shield of moradin. "A shield embossed with the Symbol of Moradin", does not appear to be giving its +2 enchantment bonus. It says it is a heavy metal shield, thus should be a +2 normally, and with its enchantment should be a total of +4. When wielding this shield it only shows up as +2.

I saw there was a post a year or two back about this same issue that was suppossedly resolved, but it appears to be happening again.

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:48 am
by Raona
It gives +4 on a Dwarven test character wielding nothing else; my guess is you already have a +2 (or larger) enchantment bonus from something else, and they do not stack?

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:54 am
by Hrosskell
Some older shields never had their +bonuses applied properly. Usually if it's a +enhancement bonus to Shield AC it should stack with the original shield equipment bonus.

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:00 am
by Azgar
I am assuming this is not the case. The only other magical items i have are the holy symbol of moradin, and a soulhammer also from moradin. Neither of which add anything to AC. The soulhammer has a +2 for damage...

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:17 pm
by Raona
Azgar wrote:It works fine while i am wearing nothing, and works fine if an item i am wearing is not armor i.e. a backpack, a bag, ring, weapon, bracelet etc.

However, if i wear anything that adds AC to one of the main wearable slots, so any piece of armor, the effect from the shield dissapears.

So it seems as if there is a conflict between wearing armor and using this shield.
I can reproduce this - the enhancement bonus from the shield is lost for a given location when armour is worn in that location, whether that armour is magical or mundane. That should not be the case per canon, right? My guess is that the code is overriding the enhancement bonus of the shield with that of the armour for that location, no matter what, even if it is zero. Could be a bad check, or just no check. More testing to do!

p.s. I hope this does not lead to any naked dwarves dashing about with nothing but a magic shield to hide their private parts!

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:35 pm
by Alitar
In that case it could be providing a different type of bonus. There are non-armour items that provide an armour bonus that does not stack with normal armour (see Bracers of Protection). It could be coded to offer that type of bonus but not the usual enhancement.

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:55 pm
by Nylo
I have seen this happen where the bonus was set as an armour bonus instead of a shield bonus. That was the case with 'a tower shield of rock-hard metal' at one point, if I remember correctly. I can't access the old thread it was reported in.

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:04 pm
by Harroghty
Hrosskell and Nylo win the prize. This shield had:

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APPLY_AC_ARMOUR 2
not...

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APPLY_AC_SHIELD 2
Pending a copyover for mending. Your copy of the object should be fixed automatically.

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:07 pm
by Hrosskell
I have a sneaking suspicion that a large number of bucklers have this effect; I've seen tons of magic ones but never ones that gave more than the standard +1 AC.

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:46 am
by Raona
The following vnums need the same tweak, when possible:
2704
101105

Re: Supplicated shield of moradin

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:04 am
by Harroghty
Thanks. Done.