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Elven Priest Class

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:29 pm
by Horace
There is a catch during the alignment phase of creating an Elf Priest, that forces you to pick NG or CG with the explanation that Corellon Clerics can only be those two alignments. First off, CN should also be an option as well especially for the Wild Elf race.

But more imporantly, an Elf Cleric shouldn't be pigeon holed into only playing Corellon - they could be a priest of another elf god, or a priest of any Major Pantheon god. The major pantheon gods hold no racial preference, and there are many instances of elven adventurers have chosen to follow such in canon. It's rare in elves as a whole, it is not rare at all for elves who have chosen to become adventurers.

I posted this because I tried to create a Wild Elf cleric of Corellon and was forced into those two alignments. It doesn't make sense, and shouldn't exist in the character creation portion of the game. If the Corellon FM doesn't want to accept anything but NG/CG then that's one thing - but forcing alignment based on race and class so strictly that it's down to 2 options, isn't good for the game.

---Edited to add: I imagine this is some old code, from a long time ago. By the rules commonly used now, it no longer applies.

"Elven priests must be neutral good or chaotic good to follow Corellon.
Anything else would require a special roleplay application.
Special roleplay applications for other elven priests are not being taken at this time."

How the heck would an Elven Druid of Mielikki be a special roleplay?

Re: Elven Priest Class

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:30 pm
by Kelemvor
Whilst moving the MUD from 2nd ed 3/3.5 some aspects of gameplay will have remained the same as they were when first introduced.

In some instances this is deliberate; we chose not to make the change. In others this is an oversight that requires adjustment.

From your description of the problem, this seems to fall into the latter category.
Whilst we still prefer elven, dwarven and gnomish priests to follow their key racial deity it would be unfair to make it so that they have no real alignment choice should they opt for a different path.

Having introduced wider druid alignments and allowed opportunities to follow uncoded Gods, we'd be taking a backward step to continue shoe-horning elven priests into NG and CG only.


I'll pass this up the line and we'll see about getting it fixed. Just be aware that this could result only in a change to the character creation and not necessarily the requirement for Corellon followers to be good aligned.

Thus, an elf priest wanting to follow him might still need to be NG or CG if we decide to deviate from 3.5 which allows CN as well.

Re: Elven Priest Class

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:35 pm
by Horace
That's awesome, thank you.

Re: Elven Priest Class

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:04 pm
by Lathander
Generally though, other elven deities are non-coded and, as such, require an app. When those apps are approved we can change a PC's alignment easily enough at the same time.

Re: Elven Priest Class

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:49 pm
by Horace
Which would be the case either way, whether they're allowed to pick their own alignment or not. Right now it forces two alignments soley based on 2nd edition Corellon restrictions...I can understand having to app for an evil elf, I get that. But having to apply for a neutral elf? Half the elves in the setting favor a neutral alignment.

It doesn't really matter to me, I just saw it and it bothered me - because now I have to dink around with an application when I feel it shouldn't require it (not to mention the text says you aren't taking new applications for elven priests that deal with alignment). Not a huge deal, just wanted to throw it out there.