Surface Drow

[Atraos]

Hi

After many, many moons of being confined to Menzo drow now have the ability to make it to the surface. Fantastic. Thank you for whoever created the new underdark areas, they are bloody hard but they have opened up possibilities and removed the stagnation of my Drow character.

Ok, what are the IC rules around drow being on the surface. Obviously IC actions will have IC reactions etc.
What I want to go into is what if any cities are Drow allowed to frequent? Is it acceptable for a Drow to shop in Zhentil Keep? Are they permitted to join the fighters guild in Westgate?
Obviously everything would have to be done IC and for IC reasons, but seeing as Drow hate all the surface going types then surely sometimes these places would need to be visited to gather information and scout the places out.

I guess I am kind of looking for guidance really, It's fantastic that we can reach the surface i just dont want it being removed because my Drow does something to put everyone else off the idea again.

Thanks

Your new to the surface Drow

[Selveem]

I think in the Orc Camp there are some cages...

[Brar]

I think there is some picks in ZK with places for drows' head....

On a more serious note:
Yes drows can access the surface, but do not forget, first reaching the surface would ICly close you from a city like Menzo.

Expect to be attacked on sight from any good / neutral and most evil characters, in every village or city, be them good, neutral or evil... A drow going in the open in Westgate won't last for more than 5 minutes before getting a host of Night Masks and guards running after him....
Even a band like Bregan D'aerthe don't go in the open in a city they control for more than a century...

Secondly, Drows fear the sun, it is imprinted in their blood, even "good drows" from Ellistrae (which we have not in FK) fear the sun and they want to be "surface dwellers"

That's my point of view anyway and only worth what it's worth, knowing I was the most virulent one wanting the drows to not mix in the surface, I'm not sure I'm not biased anyway.

Brar

Edit: Just to be sure, I don't mean to be harsh or anything bad, I'm one of the most fervent drow supporter and player in my time, but I'm also one who wants to stays true to drow background and history... and drizzt or jarlaxle are just the antethesis of everythign drows are and seeing that as becoming the norm would really pain me

[Brar]

That's a situation that I wish to think about before it happens and I need your inputs on that one.

Let's face it, we will end up with a situation where a drow will be killed on the surface during a PKill.

Now, the question is what to do with the corpse?

ICly, you wll just loot the corpse and let it rot, or drop it in the UDW to let it be eaten by roaming creatures. (no burying, sacrificing, cremating pc corpses please)

But OOCly, is it fair to the drow player, who will be more than propably unable to ever gets his things back in time before the corpse rot and spills all his stuff on the floor.

The first problem, the drow will need to be fetched .. with the very low drow player base, it is already a problem in itself.

OOCly, I was thinking about taking the corpse and dropping it near Menzo or Skullport (like I would drop trash) with an otell to the drow explaining it to him, but would it be acceptable ?
Perhaps dropping it near ZK would also do the trick for those who do not travel the UDW like I do (and have no idea where Skullport or Menzo are :p)

ZK being the only coded city in the surface I can imagine not turning against drows on sights.

What do you think about it?
What would you do if you end up killing a drow PC on the surface?
What would you like other to do if you're the drow killed on the surface?

I'm not trying to find the perfect way here or dictates anything to anybody but only some guidance on what others would do and what not, to enhance the experience of everyone while staying fair to the players behind the character.

Thank you for your time and thoughts,
Brar

[Grenwyn]

ZK does have a corpse conservatory. That should preserve the corpse for a while longer than just dropping it near the city.

[Brar]

Yeah...my dwarf of Moradin wearing his aura of Lawful Goodness and his shiny suit of mithril is not going to enter ZK.. throwing a corpse at the door saying "Here's your fiend, dogs" is more probable.

On the other hand, my dwarf will be probably dropping it near Menzo or Skullport, he is more often near those places than ZK

[Tavik]

As an answer to the original question, pretty much any city is going refuse entry to drow. Your best bet is to use some means of hiding your identity. ZK MIGHT let a drow in MAYBE. In pretty much every other case, the citizens (particularly the elf population) is going to be pretty opposed to the presence of drow. PCs are a different story, however. By finding the right PCs, you might be able to accomplish more with their help than you could on your own.

As a more definitive answer, I don't think you'll get in trouble for visiting ZK. All other cities, you should acquire some means of hiding the fact that you are a drow before entering.

Now, as for PKs: ICly, it is appropriate for many PCs to attack a drow on sight. OOCly, we still have rules that are not to be trumped by IC justification. People will still be expected to hold to those rules which means RP is expected to occur before hand as well as OOC agreement that a PK is going to happen. Drow should expect confrontation on the surface and if you don't want to die up there, then either don't go or be careful and avoid those situations. On the other side, people need to keep in mind the player behind the drow. It would be polite to find some means of offering a drow a way out of the PK. If they accept, then there's no need to find a way to get their corpse back to them. If they refuse and carry through with the PK, then they are accepting the consequences of a possible defeat as well. In accepting those consequences, I see no reason to build in any special code, program, or rules to deal with such a situation.

[Trillarel]

Hmm, what are the means of concealing oneself mentioned here?