Sense not working with kneel but working with meditatie

[Gwain]

The recent change to sense is not responding to kneeling.

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You kneel down.
(typed sense)
OOC: You need to be meditating or kneeling to do that.

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You cross your legs and begin to meditate.
You close your eyes for a second as you concentrate on the Realms of the Dead.

Realms of the dead

You see no way out.

You must stay here to determine your fate.  Your mortal body lies
upon Faerun, slowly rotting away.  You float around here in a spirit
like state awaiting to see what the gods determination of your fate

will be.

[Lylena]

I just tried the speak with dead spell earlier and got the OOC mention of kneeling or meditating. I just tried it again, after fighting something, and since you can't meditate right after battle, I tried kneeling and I get this:

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c speak
You begin to chant.
A blazing silver sword on a shield pendant glows briefly.
Your senses are attuned to the spirit world.
kneel
You kneel down.
sense
OOC: You need to be meditating or kneeling to do that.
kneel
You are already kneeling.
sense
OOC: You need to be meditating or kneeling to do that.

The OOC message should reflect that kneeling doesn't work, or there might need to be further looking into it as to why kneeling doesn't let you 'sense'. I didn't have time to test whether or not it'd work while kneeling after 'Your pulse returns to normal.'

[Harroghty]

Over to Code Council for testing and confirmation.

[Raona]

Confirmed. You can be sitting or meditating and use SENSE, but not kneeling.

OOC comment for SENSE on position mismatch is currently
OOC: You need to be meditating or kneeling to do that.
but I think it should be
OOC: You need to be meditating or sitting to do that.

This is pure hard code, not skill code, so only Mask can change it.

[Alitar]

Just thought I'd note, up until today when I tried, sense worked while resting. Today for some reason it won't.


sense
OOC: You need to be meditating to do that.


Thanks for reading!

[Alitar]

Confirmed. You can be sitting or meditating and use SENSE, but not kneeling.

I just thought I'd point out this worked for a short while, a little bit ago, however right now it seems sitting doesn't work. Just thought I'd bring it up in case no one noticed. Thanks for reading!

[Raona]

There's been some back-and-forth upstairs about this issue. Sense is currently coded to only work if you are meditating, and I believe that is intentional, not a bug. It's understood this strips classes without meditate of the ability to speak with dead. Above my pay grade to argue with the verdict on what should be, though I was wrong about this being hard code - it's actually controlled by the amulet of communication, thus area code.

Moving this to suggestions...as I guess that's what this becomes.

[Gwain]

Kelemvorites, including non cleric and non wizard receive a supp item that lets them constantly be affected with an ability that lets them speak to the dead. This is probably the only instance where a non meditating class has the ability to do so. I'd suggest recoding the supp item with another boon or allowing some form of inept meditation for them so that they too can sense.

[Bellayana]

I was wondering if there was any update on this, as I believe that supplication items should work for all members of the faith. And I would ask my fellow players if they too feel this way. Being apart of a faith should include all classes, and the supplicated items for such deities would benefit all followers. I just think from a player perspective and a follower of a faith, that the gifts from a god would benefit all equally. Is there any way this can be coded to allow for sitting?