Area economy

Dalvyn · Post by **Dalvyn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:36 am

A few months ago, I went through all the areas and increased their economy (i.e., increased how much money merchants have to buy things off PCs). Do you still find it hard to find shops with enough money to buy the loot from your adventures?

Sairaven · Post by **Sairaven** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:49 am

I run into it from time to time, but not so much now that I've moved away from something very valuable in my hunts.

Balek · Post by **Balek** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:55 am

I haven't found it to be a problem recently.

Glim · Post by **Glim** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:19 am

I was never very big on selling loot, so I might not have the best opinion. But as it stands, no, I haven't run into nearly as many problems as there used to be.

Cret · Post by **Cret** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:34 am

I think the real problem with economy is player made items. A katana sells for.. what? 22 platinum. Now, a dwarf set on acumulating several thousand platinum for a home or what not. Will spam skill his construct weapon to make enough katana's to walk arround. sell to every merchant without a katana for sell, thus obtaining maximum $$ for his sell. This depletes the economy fast.

To keep an adventurers economy, opposed to a PC driven economy would be to institute a secondary econmy for PC made objects.

Glim · Post by **Glim** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:53 am

The only problem with that, Cret, is that there will always be people who will abuse the system. Be it looting 100 pink helms and selling them or crafting 100 katanas and selling them it still ends up with the same end result.

Japcil · Post by **Japcil** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:55 am

PC made items share vnums. Case in point if I were to construct two bracelets of different metals, they will still have the same vnum and shopkeepers base selling amount on vnums held.

As to your example, even though it was just that, revisions were made to owning pc dwellings, so it may not cost thousands any more.

As far as area economies go I think there are good where they are at, I think the mobs in golden oaks get alittle too much on resets. A wererat should give off maybe 1 electrum instead of 1 gold and 2 silver. After all there is a fair amount of them in the forest there.

Raona · Post by **Raona** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:44 pm

City economies now seem reasonable, though I have still found the merchants in a few cities (Tantras, in particular) broke from time to time. I don't think it unrealistic, though.

Alvirin · Post by **Alvirin** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:26 pm

Lately I didn't have any problem to sell loot.

Nysan · Post by **Nysan** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:14 pm

Haven't had a problem with the areas my loot sellers travel. Quite pleased with the change personally.

Adabelle · Post by **Adabelle** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:28 pm

I do not have trouble selling things either. But I do find it odd that the spell back values for magic items is SO low compared to say a potion. When I value a potion with the appraise skill it is in varying handfuls of platinum. A bracelet with several charges of the same or a similar spell is worth maybe a platinum or two. Shouldn't you be able to get a lot of magic items?

They are relatively rare.

Selveem · Post by **Selveem** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:32 pm

I don't think they are specifically set. I believe they go by the base cost of the actual material and base item.

I've seen plenty of highly enchanted weapons, armors, etc.. that sell for a couple gold.

As I understand it, merchants don't recognize the magical aura each item may have or the extent of the charges on them.. things like that.

Nysan · Post by **Nysan** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:38 pm

Aye, NPC values are based on materials of said item (made of mithril, platinum, ect), usually ignore magical properties unless they are special items such as spellbooks, potions, or scrolls.

Tavik · Post by **Tavik** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:09 pm

Main cities seem fine. Smaller cities like Tantras, Daggerford, and sometimes (not as often as the other two) Berdusk are out.

Dalvyn · Post by **Dalvyn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:18 pm

Actually, very basic magical properties are also taken into account by the code (e.g., adding +1 to Strength, or adding a 3rd level spell slot), but as soon as the "magic" is done in a more complex program (e.g., objects with charges, objects with special effects, ...), the code can't determine the price. It should be up to the builder to modify the price adequately but ... it was nearly never done (the idea is that such magic items would rather be bartered between PC or kept, but not sold).

Tobias · Post by **Tobias** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:38 am

Recently the economy has been really good. Even when I see high priced loot sold about they could still afford the cheap things or some of the slightly expensive things.